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Kar looks interesting, have been eyeballing the Hok last winter, but never purchased a pair as I couldn’t come up with a good solution to use the skis with my ice climbing boots. I assume the new X-Trace design still does not go well with boots with stiff soles? Old Silvretta 404 or something similar would work, not easy to come by though, and bit of an overkill still for my intended use.
The new thing in X-Traces is that the baseplate has a hinge but that’s under the ball of the foot so probably doesn’t work with very stiff soles but with loose soles it’s better than the original baseplate. What about something like the Icetrek Flexis? I guess those would work better with stiff soles. The Plateau would be really simple and light solution and probably good model for MYOG version…
Ok, not going to work then (or will actually “work”, but break in use). Icetrek claims their bindings also need somewhat flexible boot, so modifications would be required – price is also beyond my budget unfortunately. I wish they would still make these (or similar), just about perfect solution for this type of skis, and approaches for climbs etc.: http://www.wildsnow.com/backcountry-ski-museum/emery-chrono/emery-chrono-ski-binding.html
Here’s one more idea for a binding to your needs: How about Stubai Free Heels? Doesn’t look so nice & slim but if it works then it’s good enough. And also available in Finland for reasonable price.
Nice! (but possibly bad for my wallet). I still have a pair of very lightly used Garmont Excursions that you once expressed interest in. They’re just collecting dust in my garage and I’d sooner they were used than that they rot away. Let me know if you’re interested I’m sure we can make a deal.
Dave: Unfortunately these new are often bad for the wallet… I might actually be interested in the Garmonts if they are the right size. My shoe sizes range from 45 to 48, usually 46 being good fit. If they are in the ball park, send me an e-mail (you can find the address on the “About” page).
Ooh – interesting. I saw something about these in an advert but didn’t realise they were a bit different from last year’s models. Hopefully they wont sell out so fast this year, too.
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Do the Altai universal bindings allow a la sportiva spantik boot ? Thanks
I am not sure as I haven’t tried but the bindings fit for example size 46 Sorel Caribou boot and similar boots with separate liner so I assume that the Spantiks would fit as well (unless you are using size 48 or something…) But it’s good to keep in mind that the X-Trace bindings work best with relatively flexible boots and stiff soles are not optimal for them. Would still probably work though.
Is it possible to purchase this new model currently? I was going to purchase the old hok but would much rather have the XCD Tao or the kar? I also live in the United States.
Hi Ryan! At least the Kar 147 is available, at least in Finland. Not sure of the XCD Tao, I’d assume that they’re not yet available. And unfortunately I don’t know about the availability in US. In Finland both are listed for example by Hiking Travel HIT: http://www.hikingtravelhit.fi/hiihtovalineet.htm